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|name= Chuck Shurley  
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|name= Chuck Shurley<br>[[Carver Edlund]]<br>[[God]]
 
|actor= [[Rob Benedict]]
 
|actor= [[Rob Benedict]]
|dates= 2009 -
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|dates= Before everything
 
|location= Unknown
 
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|occupation= Prophet and Book Writer  
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|occupation= [[Prophet]]<br>Writer<br>[[God]]
|episodes= [[4.18 The Monster At The End Of This Book]]<br>[[4.22 Lucifer Rising]]<br>[[5.01 Sympathy For The Devil]]<br> [[5.04 The End]]<br> [[5.09 The Real Ghostbusters]]<br>[[5.22 Swan Song]]
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|episodes= [[4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book]]<br>[[4.22 Lucifer Rising]]<br>[[5.01 Sympathy for the Devil]]<br> [[5.04 The End]]<br>[[5.09 The Real Ghostbusters]]<br>[[5.22 Swan Song]]<br>[[10.05 Fan Fiction]]
 
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==History==
 
 
{{Quotation
 
{{Quotation
 
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|text=Well, there's only one explanation. Obviously I'm a god... I'm definitely a god. A cruel, cruel, capricious god.
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|text= How else do you explain it? I write things and then they come to life. Yeah, no, I'm definitely a god. A cruel, cruel, capricious god. The things I put you through – The physical beatings alone.
|author= [[Chuck]] to Dean and Sam
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|author= Chuck Shurley
|source= [[4.18 The Monster At The End Of This Book]]
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|source= [[4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book]]
 
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Chuck Shurley is an author who wrote the [[The Supernatural Books|Supernatural Book]] series, who continues to write although the books are no longer being publishedUnbeknownst to him, the inspiration of the books is divine - he is a [[prophet]] of [[God]].  
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==History==
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Chuck Shurley is the pseudonym used by [[God]] when he was living as an author who wrote the low selling ''[[The Supernatural Books|Supernatural]]'' book series, which he wrote under the ''nom de plume'' Carver Edlund.
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Initially Chuck claimed to the Winchesters that he foresaw events that concerned [[Dean]] and [[Sam Winchester|Sam]], with Castiel revealing that Chuck was a [[prophet]]. He tells the Winchesters that he goes through some kind of a "process" when he has visions -- a severe headache occurs, and then he takes aspirin and drinks until he passes out. While unconscious, he says he sees and interprets prophecy.
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See the entry on [[God]] for a full accounting of the character.  
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==Personality==
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As Chuck Shurley, God took on the role of a nebbish and neurotic writer. He would carry on many of Chuck's characteristics as he traveled the universe, but beneath the Chuck veneer remained the same God that flooded the earth and had Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed, a God that created as much as he punished. Metatron having described his memoirs as "angry with a side of bitter." While writing his memoirs, Chuck would show his more wrathful side to Metatron. Both Amara and Lucifer describe him as narcissistic.
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Chuck took an interest in [[Sam]] and [[Dean Winchester]], claiming out of all the Sam's and Dean's in all the [[Alternate Universe|multiverse]], they were his "favorite show." And as a writer, Chuck would place Sam and Dean in situations for his own entertainment. Upon Dean Winchester refusing to kill Jack, going against Chuck's script, Chuck revealed his true nature to the Winchesters for the first time, killing Jack himself and unlocking all the gates of [[Hell]], including [[Lucifer's Cage]].
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==Episodes==
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[[File:Chuck'sDesk.jpg|350px|right|thumb|Chuck's writing space, compromised of a computer, sheets of paper, drafts and [[alcohol]].]]
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===[[4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book]]===
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:''"I am so sorry. I mean, horror is one thing, but to be forced to live bad writing… if I would have known it was real, I would have done another pass."''
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[[Sam]] and [[Dean]] find a series of books written about them, and through the publisher track down the author Carver Edlund -- the pen name of writer Chuck Shurley. He reveals the stories come to him in dreams, and that he's continued writing even after the books stopped being published.
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Chuck reveals his latest dream is of Sam and [[Lilith]] having "a night of fiery demonic passion." Sam asks Chuck if he knows about him drinking [[demon blood]], which he does, and he confronts Sam about why he is doing it. Later Dean accuses Chuck of withholding information and attacks him, but is stopped by [[Castiel]] who reveals Chuck is a [[prophet]] of the Lord, who is protected by an [[archangel]].  
  
[[Castiel]] attempts to interfere with prophecy, and is found and killed by [[Raphael]] while in Chuck's presence, which leaves the house in ruins.<ref>[[4.22 Lucifer Rising]]</ref> After he finishes his last piece of writing he mysteriously vanishes, suggesting that he may in fact be [[God]].<ref>[[5.22 Swan Song]]</ref>
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Later Castiel gives Dean information on how to stop Lilith, and by putting Chuck in the same room with Lilith, a scenario that Chuck had not predicted, the archangel threatens to appear and Lilith flees.
  
*Chuck can see the future; God granted Chuck the ability to foresee events that concern Dean and Sam Winchester
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Following the confrontation with Lilith, [[Zachariah]] appears to Chuck after he has another vision. While it is not revealed what Chuck saw, he wants to warn Sam and Dean, but Zachariah tells him not to. Chuck threatens to kill himself, but Zachariah says they will only bring him back to life. In despair, Chuck asks what he should do. Zachariah replies "Do what you always do. Write."[[File:Chuck&Cas.jpg|thumb|left|350px|Chuck and [[Castiel]] face-off with an [[archangel]].]]
*He is the author of a series of books called "Supernatural", which he writes under the pen name Carver Edlund. The contents of the books are actually Sam and Dean's lives, the details of which come to him in his dreams.
 
*Castiel names him as a prophet of [[God]].<ref>[[4.18 The Monster At The End Of This Book]]</ref>
 
*He is protected by the archangel [[Raphael]].
 
*The last names of Sam and Dean were never entered into the Supernatural books.  Chuck even told Dean and Sam that he never told anyone about their last names, nor did he write it down on side-notes.
 
*Chuck thought his first vision of [[Dean]] and [[Sam]] was just a crazy dream.  
 
*Chuck goes through some kind of a "process" when he has visions. A severe headache occurs, and then he takes aspirin and drinks until he passes out. While unconscious, he sees and interprets prophecy.  
 
* Chuck's visions appear in black and white. 
 
*The Comic Book Shop Guy revealed to Dean and Sam that these books didn't sell very well.
 
*[[The Publisher of the Supernatural Books]] felt that these books were being misjudged. She even wanted this series of books to continue, Dean quickly replied ''"Oh no, no, no god, no. I mean, why -- why would you want to do that? You know, it's, uh, such a complete series, what with Dean going to hell and all."''
 
* Chuck's last name appears on the subtitles as '''Shirley'''.
 
* Chuck's pen name "Carver Edlund" is a portmanteau of two of the shows writers: [[Jeremy Carver]] and [[Ben Edlund]].  
 
* In episode 3 of the [[Ghostfacers Web Series]], the [[Ghostfacers]] work out that the ghost is not trapped in the mirror like [[Bloody Mary]] which [[Maggie Zeddmore|Maggie]] said she read about in a "cheesy [[Carver Edlund]] book".
 
* His favorite movie is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaches_%28film%29 Beaches]. ("Hillary and CC were just so brave.")
 
* Chuck says he started writing because of a childhood crush on Nancy McKeon, the actress who played Jo on the TV show [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Facts_of_Life_%28TV_series%29 The Facts of Life]. Chuck thinks he must have sent her 40-50 letters, but she never wrote back.
 
* Chuck is finally revealed - it seems - to be [[God]].
 
* The character is also an avatar for [[Eric Kripke]]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l-TSRHnJaE Source] - [[Rob Benedict]] talks about Chuck as Eric at [[Salute to Supernatural Chicago 2009]]
 
  
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===[[4.22 Lucifer Rising]]===
* Chuck as part of the Metafictive device involving the [[The Supernatural Books]] [http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Supernatural_Books&action=edit&section=5 Here].
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:''"Lady, sometimes you got to live like there's no tomorrow."''
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Dean and Castiel appear at Chuck's place, just as he is ordering some hookers to see out the end of the world. He tells them where Sam and Lilith are, but says they are not "in the story." Castiel retorts that they are making it up as they go. The archangel, and other [[angel]]s, appear in pursuit of Castiel and Dean, and Castiel stays with Chuck to let Dean try and stop Sam.
  
==Is Chuck God?==
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'''Media Tie-in:''' On the computer screen before Castiel and Dean show up, there is an e-mail address for Chuck: carveredlund@gmail.com. This address seems to be valid and active, although there has been no response, automated or otherwise, to date.
[[Image:Chuck as God.png|300px|right|thumb|Was Chuck God?]]
 
Following the [[5.22 Swan Song|Season Five finale]], there was much debate amongst fans to whether [[Chuck]] was in fact God, and whether he had been so all along.  While consensus was with Chuck as the Divine being - Many fans started substituting Chuck's name for Gods in expression's such as "Chuck be praised?" "Oh My Chuck - OMC" and "Thank Chuck" - not all agreed. [http://io9.com/5543025/supernaturals-showrunner-sera-gamble-talks-about-god-and-endings Writer and Producer Sera Gamble on the God debate refused to either confirm or deny the speculation]: Don't ask me to squish the God debate! How many TV shows can say their fans are talking about THAT stuff?"
 
  
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[[File:Chuck&Becky.jpg|350px|right|thumb|Chuck during his IM conversation with [[Becky Rosen]].]]
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===[[5.01 Sympathy for the Devil]]===
|text=Well, there's only one explanation. Obviously I'm a god... I'm definitely a god. A cruel, cruel, capricious god.
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:''"Is that a molar? Do I have a molar in my hair? This has been a really stressful day."''
|author= [[Chuck]] to Dean and Sam
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[[Sam]] and [[Dean]] arrive in Kripke's Hollow to find Chuck's house more chaotic than usual and also quite bloody. They ask if it's true that [[Castiel]] is dead. Chuck tells them, that Castiel practically exploded (one of Castiel's molars seems to have lodged in Chuck's hair). [[Zachariah]] and some of his "bodyguards" show up, and after a brief conversation in which they try to convince Dean that he should work with the [[angel]]s again, because they want the same thing, namely [[Lucifer]] gone, Dean banishes them with the [[angel banishing sigil]].
|source= [[4.18 The Monster At The End Of This Book]]
 
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Chuck as a writer is the creator of the story of Sam and Dean Winchester in the form of the Supernatural books. He says when confronted with the real Sam and Dean that he "is a god", for all that he puts them through in the books happens in real life. This is explained by Castiel as Chuck being a prophet of God. Castiel says the "Supernatural" Books will become known as the Winchester Gospels.  
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Later, Chuck messages ''Supernatural'' fan [[Becky Rosen]], interrupting her work on her [[Wincest]] fan fiction, asking her to pass along a message to Sam and Dean. The message reveals that the angels are looking for [[Michael]]'s Sword (later to be revealed to be Dean, with the vision having been apparently planted by Zachariah), and that it is to be found "in a castle, on a hill made of 42 dogs" (which turns out to be [[John's Lock-up]]).
  
The metaphor in this episode is of ''the writer as creator''. Chuck's pseudonym is Carver Edlund, a reference to Supernatural writers [[Jeremy Carver]] and [[Ben Edlund]]. The character is an avatar for Kripke himself [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l-TSRHnJaE Source] and is used to comment on the text and process of writing with reference to specific past episodes of the Show. This metaphor would also hold then is God, the creator, was also the writer. We have a trinity here - Chuck, Kripke and God.
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===[[5.04 The End]]===
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:''"Some free advice? You ever get back there, you hoard toilet paper. You understand me? Hoard it. Hoard it like it's made of gold. 'Cause it is."''
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In 2014, [[Lucifer]]'s minions re-released the [[Croatoan]] demon virus - in this post-apocalyptic world, most humans have been reduced to murderous zombies. [[Future!Chuck]] is at [[Camp Chitaqua]] with [[Future!Dean]], [[Future!Castiel]] and other survivors. [[Future!Chuck]] is in charge of supplies. Toilet paper, he informs Dean, is "like gold."
  
Sam and Dean find out from the angel Joshua that God is on Earth.<ref name="five16">[[5.16 Dark Side Of The Moon]]</ref>
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A hoarding on a dilapidated movie theater advertises "Route 666" indicating that one of Chuck's ''Supernatural'' books was made into a movie.
  
In Sympathy For the Devil 5.1, Chuck says that he can feel the angels' presence in his house which is not a power of the prophet and may be due to his being God.
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===[[5.09 The Real Ghostbusters]]===
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:''"I'm not a good writer. I've got no marketable skills. I'm not some hero who can just hit the road and fight monsters, Okay? Until the world ends, I gotta live, all right? And the Supernatural books are all I've got. What else do you want me to do?"''
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Chuck is present at a ''Supernatural'' Convention, which fan [[Becky Rosen]] invites [[Sam]] and [[Dean]] to. When real [[ghost]]s start attacking people, Chuck has to step up and help keep everyone safe while Sam and Dean and [[Demian and Barnes]] fight the ghosts. His bravery impresses Becky who abandons her pursuit of Sam for a relationship with Chuck.
  
In the finale there, is further foreshadowing of Chuck's true identity: When Dean calls Chuck, Chuck answers the phone "Mistress Magda," and we briefly see a newspaper ad for a blonde women in a bikini named "Miss Magda" on Chuck's desk before he puts his glass on it. This may be a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene Mary Magdalene] who  Jesus, the physical incarnation of God, healed of demons. She then become a follower of his, and an early Christian leader.
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===[[5.22 Swan Song]]===
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:''"No doubt – endings are hard. But then again, nothing ever really ends, does it?"''
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Chuck begins his final book, titled "Swan Song," with an explanation of the [[Impala]]'s history and significance. He is later called by [[Dean]] for the location of [[Lucifer]] and [[Michael]]'s final battle, which he readily gives; [[Stull Cemetery]].<br>
  
[[Chuck]], after narrating the events that take place, finally appears dressed in white musing on the difficulty of getting endings right. He then disappears - Chuck, it seems, is God.
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He finally appears dressed in white, musing on the difficulty of getting endings right. He then disappears, evaporating into thin air.
  
Fans arguing against Chuck's divinity point primarily to the fact that [[Dean's Amulet]], which Castiel says will "burn hot" in God's presence does not react when Dean and Chuck meet face to face in [[4.18 The Monster At The End Of This Book]], [[4.22 Lucifer Rising]], and [[5.01 Sympathy For The Devil]]. However, Joshua tells Sam and Dean in [[Heaven]] "Magic amulet or not, you won't be able to find him".
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{|align="center"
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|[[File:Chuck-SwanSong.jpg|350px|thumb|Chuck typing "Swan Song" - The last book in the ''Supernatural'' book series.]]
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|[[File:Chuck-SwanSong02.jpg|350px|thumb|Chuck reads over the finished book.]]
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Other arguments include the failure of others to recognise God's true self, including
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===[[7.08 Season Seven, Time for a Wedding!]]===
Raphael is the archangel assigned to protect Chuck. In [[5.03 Free To Be You And Me]], he tells Dean and Castiel that God is "dead" and they are living in a "godless universe."
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Becky mentions Chuck when she talks to Sam while he's tied to the bed. She says that she's pursuing Sam in part because Chuck broke up with her, saying she may have "intimidated him with my [her] vibrant sexuality."
  
Castiel is also ignorant of Chuck's true identity. He held off Raphael at Chuck's house while Dean went after Sam in [[4.22 Lucifer Rising]], and met Chuck several times.  
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===[[8.07 A Little Slice of Kevin]]===
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Chuck is mentioned briefly by the Winchesters whilst discussing [[prophets]] after many of the "potentials" are being captured worldwide by [[Crowley]]. As there can only be one prophet at any given time, [[Castiel]] suggests that Chuck is most likely dead, thus allowing for [[Kevin Tran]] to become one.
  
The answer may never be confirmed, or further information may be revealed in [[:Category:Season 6|Season 6]].
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===[[8.20 Pac-Man Fever]]===
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[[Charlie Bradbury]] mentions having read all the Carver Edlund ''Supernatural'' books, in her preparations for starting hunting.
  
== Appearances ==
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===[[10.05 Fan Fiction]]===
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:''"Not bad."''
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Chuck appeared at the theater after the musical after claiming the ticket that Marie left for "the publisher." When asked by Marie what he thought of the play, despite it's problems, he replied with a "Not bad."
  
=== [[4.18 The Monster At The End Of This Book]] ===
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==Chuck Is God==
[[Image:Chuck's Computer.Jpg|300px|right|thumb|Chuck's writing space, compromised by a computer, sheets of paper and drafts.]]
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[[File:Chuck-God.jpg|350px|right|thumb|Was Chuck [[God]]?]]
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Before the revelation that Chuck was God in Season 11, there had been much speculation as to Chuck's real identity. This began after his disappearance at the end of  [[5.22 Swan Song]], when there was much debate amongst fans to whether Chuck was in fact [[God]], and whether he had been so all along.
  
Sam and Dean find a series of books written about them, and through the publisher track down the author Carver Edlund - the pen name of writer Chuck Shurley. He reveals the stories come to him in dreams, and that he's continued writing even after the books stopped being published.
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[http://io9.com/5543025/supernaturals-showrunner-sera-gamble-talks-about-god-and-endings Writer and Producer Sera Gamble on the God debate refused to either confirm or deny the speculation]
  
Chuck reveals his latest dream is of Sam and Lilith having "a night of fiery demonic passion." Sam asks Chuck if he knows about him drinking [[Demon Blood]], which he does, and he confronts Sam about why he is doing it. Later Dean accuses Chuck of withholding information and attacks him, but is stopped by [[Castiel]] who reveals Chuck is a prophet of God, who is protected by an archangel.
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:"Don't ask me to squish the God debate! How many TV shows can say their fans are talking about THAT stuff?"
  
Later Castiel gives Dean information on how to stop [[Lilith]], revealing that Chuck is protected by an archangel who will intervene if Chuck is threatened. By putting Chuck in the same room with Lilith, the archangel threatens to appear and Lilith flees.
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As a writer, Chuck is the creator of the story of [[Sam]] and [[Dean Winchester]] in the form of the ''Supernatural'' book series. He sarcastically says when confronted with the real Sam and Dean that he "is a god," for all that he puts them through in the books happens in real life. This is explained by [[Castiel]] as Chuck being a prophet of the Lord. Castiel says the ''Supernatural'' books will one day become known as the Winchester Gospels.  
  
Following the confrontation with Lilith, [[Zachariah]] appears to Chuck after he has another vision. While it is not revealed what Chuck saw, he wants to warn Sam and Dean, but Zachariah tells him not to. Chuck threatens to kill himself, but Zachariah says they will only bring him back to life. In despair, Chuck asks what he should do. Zachariah replies "Do what you always do. Write".
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Chuck's pseudonym is Carver Edlund, a reference to ''Supernatural'' writers [[Jeremy Carver]] and [[Ben Edlund]]. The character is an avatar for Kripke himself ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l-TSRHnJaE Source]) and is used to comment on the text and process of writing with reference to specific past episodes of the Show. This metaphor would also hold then is God, the creator, was also the writer. We have a trinity here - Chuck, Kripke and God.
  
=== [[4.22 Lucifer Rising]] ===
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Sam and Dean find out from the [[angel]] [[Joshua]] that God is on Earth.<ref name="five16">[[5.16 Dark Side of the Moon]]</ref>
Dean and Castiel appear at Chuck's place, just as he is ordering some hookers to see see out the end of the world. He tells them where Sam and Lilith are, but says they are not "in the story". Castiel retorts that they are making it up as they go. The [[Archangel]] , and other angels, appear in pursuit of Castiel and Dean, and Castiel stays with Chuck to let Dean try and stop Sam.
 
  
'''Media Tie-in:'''  On the computer screen before Castiel and Dean show up, there is an e-mail address for Chuck: carveredlund@gmail.com. This address seems to be valid and active, although there has been no response, automated or otherwise, to date.
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In [[5.01 Sympathy for the Devil]], Chuck says that he can feel the angels' presence in his house, which is not an established power of the [[prophet]].
  
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In the finale there is further foreshadowing of Chuck's true identity: When Dean calls Chuck, Chuck answers the phone "Mistress Magda," and we briefly see a newspaper ad for a blonde women in a bikini named "Miss Magda" on Chuck's desk before he puts his glass on it. This may be a reference to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene Mary Magdalene] who [[Jesus]] healed of [[demon]]s. She then become a follower of his, and an early Christian leader.
  
=== [[5.01 Sympathy For The Devil]] ===
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Another thing about Chuck's true identity is his visions. In [[4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book]],when he met the Winchesters for the first time, he acts like he doesn't know them, although in his visions at the beginning of this episode he clearly saw Sam and Dean and the Car.  
[[image:Chuck-SPN-5-01-chuck-shurley-9106498-1280-720.jpg|300px|right|thumb|Chuck during his IM conversation with Becky.]]
 
  
Sam and Dean arrive in Kripke's Hollow to find Chuck's house more chaotic than usual and also quite bloody. They ask if it's true that Castiel is dead. Chuck tells them, that Castiel practically exploded (one of Castiel's molars seems to have lodged in Chuck's hair). Zachariah and some of his "bodyguards" show up, and after a brief conversation in which they try to convince Dean that he should work with the angels again, because they want the same thing, namely [[Lucifer]] gone, Dean banishes them the [[Angel Banishing Sigil]].  
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Chuck, after narrating the events that take place, finally appears dressed in white musing on the difficulty of getting endings right. He then disappears. This leads many to speculate that he is the supreme being.
  
Later, Chuck messages Supernatural fan [[Becky Rosen]], interrupting her work on her [[Wincest]] fan fiction, asking her to pass along a message to Sam and Dean. The message reveals that the angels are looking for Michael's Sword (later to be revealed to be Dean), and that it is to be found "in a castle, on a hill made of 42 dogs" (which turns out to be [[John's Lock-up]]).
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Fans arguing against Chuck's divinity pointed primarily to the fact that [[Dean's amulet]], which Castiel says will "burn hot" in God's presence does not react when Dean and Chuck meet face to face in [[4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book]], [[4.22 Lucifer Rising]], and [[5.01 Sympathy for the Devil]]. However, Joshua tells Sam and Dean in [[Heaven]] "Magic amulet or not, you won't be able to find him."
  
=== [[5.04 The End]] ===
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Other arguments include the failure of others to recognize God's true self, including [[Raphael]] the [[archangel]] assigned to protect Chuck. In [[5.03 Free to Be You and Me]], he tells Dean and Castiel that God is "dead" and they are living in a "Godless universe."
In 2014, [[Lucifer]]'s minions re-released the [[Croatoan]] demon virus - in this post-apocalyptic world, most humans have been reduced to murderous zombies. [[Future!Chuck]] is at [[Camp Chitaqua]] with [[Future!Dean]], [[Future!Castiel]] and other survivors. [[Future!Chuck]] is in charge of supplies. Toilet paper, he informs Dean, is 'like gold'.  
 
  
A hoarding on a dilapidated movie theatre advertises "Route 666" indicating that one of Chuck's "Supernatural" books was made into a movie.
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Castiel is also ignorant of Chuck's true identity. He held off Raphael at Chuck's house while Dean went after Sam in [[4.22 Lucifer Rising]], and met Chuck several times. However, God is able to hide himself even from Angels (as evidenced in [[5.16 Dark Side of the Moon]] by Joshua).
  
=== [[5.09 The Real Ghostbusters]] ===
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At the Rob Benedict Panel at [[Jus In Bello Italy 2011]], Rob confirmed that Chuck is in fact God. He explains that other members of the cast, as well as Eric Kripke himself had asked him how it felt to play God. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni7uidj9Rx8 Source]
Chuck is present at a Supernatural Convention, which fan [[Becky Rosen]] invites Sam and Dean to. When real ghosts start attacking people, Chuck has to step up and help keep everyone safe while Sam and Dean and [[Demian and Barnes]] fight the ghosts. His bravery impresses [[Becky]] who abandons her pursuit of Sam for a relationship with Chuck.
 
  
=== [[5.22 Swan Song]] ===
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After [[5.22 Swan Song]] fans began using "Chuck" rather than "God" in phrases such as "[[Thank Chuck]]," "Chuck Be Praised" and "Chuck bless you!"
[[Image:Typing.jpg|300px|left|thumb|Chuck typing "Swan Song" - The last book in the Supernatural book series.]]<br>[[Image:Chuck as God.png|300px|right|thumb|Chuck is revealed as God]]
 
  
Chuck begins his final book, titled "Swan Song", with an explanation of the Impala's history and significance. He is later called by Dean for the location of Lucifer and [[Michael]]'s final battle, which he readily gives.<br>
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In season eight, some fans speculated that Chuck may have been a manifestation of the [[angel]] [[Metatron]], who was known as God's scribe.
  
He finally appears dressed in white, musing on the difficulty of getting endings right. He then disappears, leading viewers to believe he may, in fact, be God.
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In the 200th episode, [[10.05 Fan Fiction]], Chuck appeared at the end (commenting "not bad" when asked if the musical had been good). Castiel noted earlier in the series that Prophets can only become Prophets if the previous one has died. Since Kevin Tran had become a Prophet, yet Chuck was alive, it suggests he is, at the very least, not a normal Prophet and somewhat out of the ordinary.
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In [[11.20 Don't Call Me Shurley]], Chuck reveals himself as [[God]] to Metatron, and that he used "Chuck" to 'hide in plain' sight. He states that he had turned the amulet off, which is why it didn't alert the Winchesters or Castiel to his presence. Chuck also confirms that he was the one to resurrect Castiel each time he died. Chuck later reveals himself as God to the Winchesters and confirms it with the help of [[Kevin Tran]].
  
== External links ==
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==Trivia==
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* The character is also an avatar for [[Eric Kripke]].
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* [[Rob Benedict]] talks about Chuck as Eric at [[Salute to Supernatural Chicago 2009]] ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l-TSRHnJaE Source]).
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* Chuck's pen name "Carver Edlund" is a portmanteau of two of the shows writers: [[Jeremy Carver]] and [[Ben Edlund]].
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* In episode 3 of the [[Ghostfacers Web Series]], the [[Ghostfacers]] work out that the ghost is not trapped in the mirror like [[Bloody Mary]] which [[Maggie Zeddmore]] said she read about in a "cheesy Carver Edlund book."
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* The last names of Sam and Dean were never entered into the ''Supernatural'' books. Chuck even told Dean and Sam that he never told anyone about their last names, nor did he write it down on side-notes.
  
* [http://community.livejournal.com/spn_chuck spn_chuck] - A LiveJournal community dedicated to Chuck Shurley
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==See also==
* [http://www.fanfiction.net/tv/Supernatural/3/0/1/1/0/20322/0/0/0/1/ Fanfiction] featuring Chuck on [[Fanfiction.net]]
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* [[The Supernatural Books]]
  
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* [https://orangemeta.tumblr.com/post/142395197980/chuckdammit Chuck's name meaning] by peter-pantomime, iwatchthepie (April 2016); [https://web.archive.org/web/20181207043724/http://orangemeta.tumblr.com/post/142395197980/chuckdammit archive link]
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* [https://myblackeyedfire.tumblr.com/post/143938010566/thoughts-on-chuck-after-1120 Thoughts on Chuck after 11.20] by myblackeyedfire (May 2016); [http://archive.today/46riY archive link]
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ChuckShurley.jpg
Name Chuck Shurley
Carver Edlund
God
Actor Rob Benedict
Dates Before everything
Location Unknown
Occupation Prophet
Writer
God
Episode(s) 4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book
4.22 Lucifer Rising
5.01 Sympathy for the Devil
5.04 The End
5.09 The Real Ghostbusters
5.22 Swan Song
10.05 Fan Fiction

How else do you explain it? I write things and then they come to life. Yeah, no, I'm definitely a god. A cruel, cruel, capricious god. The things I put you through – The physical beatings alone.

– Chuck Shurley, 4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book

History

Chuck Shurley is the pseudonym used by God when he was living as an author who wrote the low selling Supernatural book series, which he wrote under the nom de plume Carver Edlund.

Initially Chuck claimed to the Winchesters that he foresaw events that concerned Dean and Sam, with Castiel revealing that Chuck was a prophet. He tells the Winchesters that he goes through some kind of a "process" when he has visions -- a severe headache occurs, and then he takes aspirin and drinks until he passes out. While unconscious, he says he sees and interprets prophecy.

See the entry on God for a full accounting of the character.

Personality

As Chuck Shurley, God took on the role of a nebbish and neurotic writer. He would carry on many of Chuck's characteristics as he traveled the universe, but beneath the Chuck veneer remained the same God that flooded the earth and had Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed, a God that created as much as he punished. Metatron having described his memoirs as "angry with a side of bitter." While writing his memoirs, Chuck would show his more wrathful side to Metatron. Both Amara and Lucifer describe him as narcissistic.

Chuck took an interest in Sam and Dean Winchester, claiming out of all the Sam's and Dean's in all the multiverse, they were his "favorite show." And as a writer, Chuck would place Sam and Dean in situations for his own entertainment. Upon Dean Winchester refusing to kill Jack, going against Chuck's script, Chuck revealed his true nature to the Winchesters for the first time, killing Jack himself and unlocking all the gates of Hell, including Lucifer's Cage.

Episodes

Chuck's writing space, compromised of a computer, sheets of paper, drafts and alcohol.

4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book

"I am so sorry. I mean, horror is one thing, but to be forced to live bad writing… if I would have known it was real, I would have done another pass."

Sam and Dean find a series of books written about them, and through the publisher track down the author Carver Edlund -- the pen name of writer Chuck Shurley. He reveals the stories come to him in dreams, and that he's continued writing even after the books stopped being published.

Chuck reveals his latest dream is of Sam and Lilith having "a night of fiery demonic passion." Sam asks Chuck if he knows about him drinking demon blood, which he does, and he confronts Sam about why he is doing it. Later Dean accuses Chuck of withholding information and attacks him, but is stopped by Castiel who reveals Chuck is a prophet of the Lord, who is protected by an archangel.

Later Castiel gives Dean information on how to stop Lilith, and by putting Chuck in the same room with Lilith, a scenario that Chuck had not predicted, the archangel threatens to appear and Lilith flees.

Following the confrontation with Lilith, Zachariah appears to Chuck after he has another vision. While it is not revealed what Chuck saw, he wants to warn Sam and Dean, but Zachariah tells him not to. Chuck threatens to kill himself, but Zachariah says they will only bring him back to life. In despair, Chuck asks what he should do. Zachariah replies "Do what you always do. Write."
Chuck and Castiel face-off with an archangel.

4.22 Lucifer Rising

"Lady, sometimes you got to live like there's no tomorrow."

Dean and Castiel appear at Chuck's place, just as he is ordering some hookers to see out the end of the world. He tells them where Sam and Lilith are, but says they are not "in the story." Castiel retorts that they are making it up as they go. The archangel, and other angels, appear in pursuit of Castiel and Dean, and Castiel stays with Chuck to let Dean try and stop Sam.

Media Tie-in: On the computer screen before Castiel and Dean show up, there is an e-mail address for Chuck: carveredlund@gmail.com. This address seems to be valid and active, although there has been no response, automated or otherwise, to date.

Chuck during his IM conversation with Becky Rosen.

5.01 Sympathy for the Devil

"Is that a molar? Do I have a molar in my hair? This has been a really stressful day."

Sam and Dean arrive in Kripke's Hollow to find Chuck's house more chaotic than usual and also quite bloody. They ask if it's true that Castiel is dead. Chuck tells them, that Castiel practically exploded (one of Castiel's molars seems to have lodged in Chuck's hair). Zachariah and some of his "bodyguards" show up, and after a brief conversation in which they try to convince Dean that he should work with the angels again, because they want the same thing, namely Lucifer gone, Dean banishes them with the angel banishing sigil.

Later, Chuck messages Supernatural fan Becky Rosen, interrupting her work on her Wincest fan fiction, asking her to pass along a message to Sam and Dean. The message reveals that the angels are looking for Michael's Sword (later to be revealed to be Dean, with the vision having been apparently planted by Zachariah), and that it is to be found "in a castle, on a hill made of 42 dogs" (which turns out to be John's Lock-up).

5.04 The End

"Some free advice? You ever get back there, you hoard toilet paper. You understand me? Hoard it. Hoard it like it's made of gold. 'Cause it is."

In 2014, Lucifer's minions re-released the Croatoan demon virus - in this post-apocalyptic world, most humans have been reduced to murderous zombies. Future!Chuck is at Camp Chitaqua with Future!Dean, Future!Castiel and other survivors. Future!Chuck is in charge of supplies. Toilet paper, he informs Dean, is "like gold."

A hoarding on a dilapidated movie theater advertises "Route 666" indicating that one of Chuck's Supernatural books was made into a movie.

5.09 The Real Ghostbusters

"I'm not a good writer. I've got no marketable skills. I'm not some hero who can just hit the road and fight monsters, Okay? Until the world ends, I gotta live, all right? And the Supernatural books are all I've got. What else do you want me to do?"

Chuck is present at a Supernatural Convention, which fan Becky Rosen invites Sam and Dean to. When real ghosts start attacking people, Chuck has to step up and help keep everyone safe while Sam and Dean and Demian and Barnes fight the ghosts. His bravery impresses Becky who abandons her pursuit of Sam for a relationship with Chuck.

5.22 Swan Song

"No doubt – endings are hard. But then again, nothing ever really ends, does it?"

Chuck begins his final book, titled "Swan Song," with an explanation of the Impala's history and significance. He is later called by Dean for the location of Lucifer and Michael's final battle, which he readily gives; Stull Cemetery.

He finally appears dressed in white, musing on the difficulty of getting endings right. He then disappears, evaporating into thin air.

Chuck typing "Swan Song" - The last book in the Supernatural book series.
Chuck reads over the finished book.

7.08 Season Seven, Time for a Wedding!

Becky mentions Chuck when she talks to Sam while he's tied to the bed. She says that she's pursuing Sam in part because Chuck broke up with her, saying she may have "intimidated him with my [her] vibrant sexuality."

8.07 A Little Slice of Kevin

Chuck is mentioned briefly by the Winchesters whilst discussing prophets after many of the "potentials" are being captured worldwide by Crowley. As there can only be one prophet at any given time, Castiel suggests that Chuck is most likely dead, thus allowing for Kevin Tran to become one.

8.20 Pac-Man Fever

Charlie Bradbury mentions having read all the Carver Edlund Supernatural books, in her preparations for starting hunting.

10.05 Fan Fiction

"Not bad."

Chuck appeared at the theater after the musical after claiming the ticket that Marie left for "the publisher." When asked by Marie what he thought of the play, despite it's problems, he replied with a "Not bad."

Chuck Is God

Was Chuck God?

Before the revelation that Chuck was God in Season 11, there had been much speculation as to Chuck's real identity. This began after his disappearance at the end of 5.22 Swan Song, when there was much debate amongst fans to whether Chuck was in fact God, and whether he had been so all along.

Writer and Producer Sera Gamble on the God debate refused to either confirm or deny the speculation

"Don't ask me to squish the God debate! How many TV shows can say their fans are talking about THAT stuff?"

As a writer, Chuck is the creator of the story of Sam and Dean Winchester in the form of the Supernatural book series. He sarcastically says when confronted with the real Sam and Dean that he "is a god," for all that he puts them through in the books happens in real life. This is explained by Castiel as Chuck being a prophet of the Lord. Castiel says the Supernatural books will one day become known as the Winchester Gospels.

Chuck's pseudonym is Carver Edlund, a reference to Supernatural writers Jeremy Carver and Ben Edlund. The character is an avatar for Kripke himself (Source) and is used to comment on the text and process of writing with reference to specific past episodes of the Show. This metaphor would also hold then is God, the creator, was also the writer. We have a trinity here - Chuck, Kripke and God.

Sam and Dean find out from the angel Joshua that God is on Earth.[1]

In 5.01 Sympathy for the Devil, Chuck says that he can feel the angels' presence in his house, which is not an established power of the prophet.

In the finale there is further foreshadowing of Chuck's true identity: When Dean calls Chuck, Chuck answers the phone "Mistress Magda," and we briefly see a newspaper ad for a blonde women in a bikini named "Miss Magda" on Chuck's desk before he puts his glass on it. This may be a reference to Mary Magdalene who Jesus healed of demons. She then become a follower of his, and an early Christian leader.

Another thing about Chuck's true identity is his visions. In 4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book,when he met the Winchesters for the first time, he acts like he doesn't know them, although in his visions at the beginning of this episode he clearly saw Sam and Dean and the Car.

Chuck, after narrating the events that take place, finally appears dressed in white musing on the difficulty of getting endings right. He then disappears. This leads many to speculate that he is the supreme being.

Fans arguing against Chuck's divinity pointed primarily to the fact that Dean's amulet, which Castiel says will "burn hot" in God's presence does not react when Dean and Chuck meet face to face in 4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book, 4.22 Lucifer Rising, and 5.01 Sympathy for the Devil. However, Joshua tells Sam and Dean in Heaven "Magic amulet or not, you won't be able to find him."

Other arguments include the failure of others to recognize God's true self, including Raphael the archangel assigned to protect Chuck. In 5.03 Free to Be You and Me, he tells Dean and Castiel that God is "dead" and they are living in a "Godless universe."

Castiel is also ignorant of Chuck's true identity. He held off Raphael at Chuck's house while Dean went after Sam in 4.22 Lucifer Rising, and met Chuck several times. However, God is able to hide himself even from Angels (as evidenced in 5.16 Dark Side of the Moon by Joshua).

At the Rob Benedict Panel at Jus In Bello Italy 2011, Rob confirmed that Chuck is in fact God. He explains that other members of the cast, as well as Eric Kripke himself had asked him how it felt to play God. Source

After 5.22 Swan Song fans began using "Chuck" rather than "God" in phrases such as "Thank Chuck," "Chuck Be Praised" and "Chuck bless you!"

In season eight, some fans speculated that Chuck may have been a manifestation of the angel Metatron, who was known as God's scribe.

In the 200th episode, 10.05 Fan Fiction, Chuck appeared at the end (commenting "not bad" when asked if the musical had been good). Castiel noted earlier in the series that Prophets can only become Prophets if the previous one has died. Since Kevin Tran had become a Prophet, yet Chuck was alive, it suggests he is, at the very least, not a normal Prophet and somewhat out of the ordinary.

In 11.20 Don't Call Me Shurley, Chuck reveals himself as God to Metatron, and that he used "Chuck" to 'hide in plain' sight. He states that he had turned the amulet off, which is why it didn't alert the Winchesters or Castiel to his presence. Chuck also confirms that he was the one to resurrect Castiel each time he died. Chuck later reveals himself as God to the Winchesters and confirms it with the help of Kevin Tran.

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